Thistle (thistle_chaser) wrote,

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FFXI: technical stuff (DRK/DRG, tricking)

This will be a more "technical" post than usual, so if you don't play please feel totally free to skip this.

A few days ago I read about a JP player who played as DRK/DRG. That sounds wacky at first, but apparently it worked well (he went all-out with DRK stuff, totally getting hate, then super jumped it away). I love thinking about interesting and new combos like that. I don't think this one would work better in general (why jump the hate away when you can sub THF and trick it onto the tank?), but still, it's interesting to think about. Other than the loss of being able to pin hate, the other issue is one I'm not so sure about: Don't DRGs have ACC issues? I'd really, really hate to stack one ACC-challenged job with another...

THF 30 is just around the corner, and DRK 60 not much far behind that. I hope setting this tricking stuff up won't be as much of a challenge as it seems to be in my head. The way I'm seeing it, I'll line up behind Ashn (main tank) and Ead (MNK/WAR, backup tank) will stand across the mob from him. Because Xal tends to get hate, she should stand behind Ead. How slippery does our hate tend to be? Can you get hate off Ashn with just a provoke, Ead? If not, we'll have to do the trick in the beginning, which will mean I need TP at the start of the fight... which will mean less sitting for MP for me (bah).

So Xal pulls the mob in, Ead provokes it. Xal starts the SC, I close it with SA/TA. Hate snaps onto Ashn, and he can provoke from there. I guess writing it out makes it clearer than it was in my head. It's just that we sometimes have issues with me missing SAs because the mob turns, I really worry about our ability to form a nice steady line...

See, but if Ead can pull hate off Ashn mid-fight, tricking would be more useful. I could do more stuff (SE+LR+WS/SA/TA) and lose (and pin) more hate that way... Maybe we could arrange this with both SCs, if Xal can get TP fast enough:

Fight starts as usual. Ashn has hate. Xal and Ead (standing opposite Ashn and I) have TP, so SC. Mob will likely turn and face them? (Does Ashn usually have to provoke at this point? He does, right?) Then Xal gets to 100% again , she starts her SC with me, I do as much as I can (LR/SE + WS/SA/TA) while standing behind Ashn, and he'll get my fight's worth thus far, plus the SC hate.

But maybe doing it in the beginning would be handier, since then Ead wouldn't have to tank much and Ashn would get the extra hate-help early on...
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